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 Post subject: Re: learning about compressors
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:38 am 
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 Post subject: Re: learning about compressors
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:40 am 
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thesisdrs wrote:
How does the Vinyl Sim compare between the 303 and the 404SX?


it's a completely different effect my friend. vinyl sim on 404sx is simply a wow/flutter simulator with a crackle noise simulator added for shits n giggles.

vinyl sim COMP on 303 and 404 is a very intricate compression algorithm that has never been reproduced by any other compressor ever created.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:42 am 
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Can someone explain what it means to "get levels right" ? Im not good at the technical stuff lol

(if this post pops up 3 times its cause it wasn't posting on my phone lol)

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 Post subject: Re: learning about compressors
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:45 am 
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zendan wrote:
it's a completely different effect my friend. vinyl sim on 404sx is simply a wow/flutter simulator with a crackle noise simulator added for shits n giggles.

vinyl sim COMP on 303 and 404 is a very intricate compression algorithm that has never been reproduced by any other compressor ever created.


I see. when I used it i didn't notice it compressing anything. Was just this low resolution filter with the aforementioned noise simulation.

i'm actually glad it doesn't actually compress audio. I can use my fairchild 670 emulation plugin for compression :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: learning about compressors
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:49 am 
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SOUL CHOPPA wrote:
Can someone explain what it means to "get levels right" ? Im not good at the technical stuff lol

(if this post pops up 3 times its cause it wasn't posting on my phone lol)


make sure the volume on your "chain" is not too high. All i know is you have the 303 and i'm assuming a turntable. If your using a turntable like mine then you have a mixer. if you have a numark pt 101 then just worry about the volume on there and your 303.

if you have a mixer like me then worry about the mixer volume and the 303.. try not to make your overall level go past -6dB

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 Post subject: Re: learning about compressors
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SOUL CHOPPA wrote:
Can someone explain what it means to "get levels right" ? Im not good at the technical stuff lol

(if this post pops up 3 times its cause it wasn't posting on my phone lol)


level refers to how loud an audio signal is. in a song, you have multiple audio signals, no? from each different sound going into the mix. the kick drum, the snare drum, a piano being played, every thing has it's own level of sound, loudness, you know?!?! and these levels must be fine tuned in coordination with each other to make a good sounding end product.

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 Post subject: Re: learning about compressors
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:56 am 
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Aight thanks y’all

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 Post subject: Re: learning about compressors
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Also, they say that you should be mixing with your mastering level emitting 75dB of juice. I use SPL meter apps to detect this.

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 Post subject: Re: learning about compressors
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Zendan, the 505 is cheaper & is supposed to be similiar to the 303......i've heard it has the same vinyl sim as the 303, it can sound nice & grimey.....I hear good things.......someone that has owned it could probably shed more light...
I think it came out right after the 303?


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 Post subject: Re: learning about compressors
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:25 am 
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Compressors don’t always need to be used on drums or over your master track.

If you want to record instruments or tracks with contrasting volumes, a compressor can help normalize the sound so you have a more even recording.

Did anyone actually watch the video lol?


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 Post subject: Re: learning about compressors
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:12 am 
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andy wrote:

Did anyone actually watch the video lol?


nah i think i know all i need to know about compression so i didn't watch

btw your explanation right here doesn't really make sense:
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If you want to record instruments or tracks with contrasting volumes, a compressor can help normalize the sound so you have a more even recording.


why wouldn't you just record them at the volume you want them to be at in the finished product???
a compressor isn't for evening out the volume levels; it's about dynamics, the way the sounds of each instrument affect each other.

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 Post subject: Re: learning about compressors
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:46 am 
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zendan wrote:

nah, clipping is good on tape if you know what you're doing


tape compression when you don't know what gain setting even is sums up all lofi dudes. There's probably a vst or 10 for that

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 Post subject: Re: learning about compressors
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:24 am 
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zendan wrote:
why wouldn't you just record them at the volume you want them to be at in the finished product???
a compressor isn't for evening out the volume levels; it's about dynamics, the way the sounds of each instrument affect each other.


First off, you can NEVER know at what level your instrument is going to 'sit' in the final mix, too many variables, and it's a general rule of thumb to record as loud as possible (to get the best signal to noise ratio) with all the frequency recorded, because it's better to take down those you don't need, then to boost something that wasn't even recorded in the first place.
Also by boosting frequency, you add hiss and possibly phase shift (if you're using mics without managing the distance between them and the sound source


Compression IS NOT about dynamics, compression is KILLING dynamics (that is, if you're not using it properly, have a poor compressor, or don't have a clue about what it does, and you just crank the knobs hoping miracle will happen) because it evens out the signals.

http://www.harmonycentral.com/forum/for ... 7-36421937


http://www.ovnilab.com/articles/killedmytone.shtml


https://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech ... ion-574533

Definition of compression :
"Dynamic range compression (DRC) or simply compression is an audio signal processing operation that reduces the volume of loud sounds or amplifies quiet sounds thus reducing or compressing an audio signal's dynamic range."

REDUCING AN AUDIO SIGNAL'S DYNAMIC RANGE. Get it?

Once again you prove you have no idea what you're talking about, but still somehow think you know best.

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 Post subject: Re: learning about compressors
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:36 am 
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zendan wrote:
andy wrote:

Did anyone actually watch the video lol?


nah i think i know all i need to know about compression so i didn't watch

btw your explanation right here doesn't really make sense:
andy wrote:
If you want to record instruments or tracks with contrasting volumes, a compressor can help normalize the sound so you have a more even recording.


why wouldn't you just record them at the volume you want them to be at in the finished product???
a compressor isn't for evening out the volume levels; it's about dynamics, the way the sounds of each instrument affect each other.


Bro do yourself a favor and watch the video... it’s free and the dude explaining is legit.

You don’t know everything... and spreading misinformation.

I made this thread so people here who didnt know will know the basics of what a compressor is and its basic functions.

Everyone please if you don’t really understand compressors it’s a quick video and very easy to digest. I’m only trying to share knowledge from credible sources... don’t understand why people even comment on a thread about a video without even watching the video lol.

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 Post subject: Re: learning about compressors
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:07 pm 
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My bad. The first video is about he controls. He didn’t go into why people started using compressors in the first place.

The video below explains the history on why engineers used compressors

https://theproaudiofiles.com/video/a-brief-history-compression-explained/


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